Positive - Outstanding grip and precision in the dry, very good feedback, very easy to control at the limit. Pressure change to 2.4f 2.1r (from 2.2f 2.2r) when hot recommended.
Negative - As typical for a semi slick limited wet performance and high rolling resistance.
Questions and Answers for the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2
2018-09-19 - Which tyre use in Michelin Pilot sport 4 on this test?
Because PS4 is not available in 235/35 r 19 .
If the Michelin Pilot sport 4S isn't available in rim 18 , What was the tyres use um Michelin Pilot sport 4 in this test.
We ran 235/40 R19 for the video which all three tyres are available in.
2019-10-10 - Hi, I am driving a Golf 7 R Facelift and I want to do a Trackday training at the Nordschleife next year. I also want to do some tourist driving every now and then as well. I will also do a summer road trip through the alps. I am usually doing 12000 km in the summer. Would you recommend using the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S or the Cup 2 for this purpose (so for daily driving on normal roads as well)? I see that the PS4S has a much longer lifetime and excellent dry and wet handling but will it survive trackdriving to a certain limit? Or will it overheat too quickly and be destroyed by driving it for 1000 km on a race track like the Nordschleife? I am not a Pro driver but I would like to do some “faster” laps. Can you give me advise? Thanks a lot!
The PS4S can certainly take some track abuse, but the Cup 2 would take a more sustained beating on places like the ring. The ideal setup would be two sets of wheels, running the Cup 2 when you're doing a lot of track work, and the PS4S when you're spending more time on the road.
2021-05-07 - Just purchasing these on 19 inch rims on a 392bhp Honda Type R. To be used mainly on track so what are recommended tyre pressures for road use and what do you suggest when hot on track. I have a set of PS4S on 20 inch rim and have fond these behaved well on a dry track but expect to use these on wet/damp track and as road winter tyre. Any suggestions ro pressures would be helpful Found on the pS4s had to drop pressures a lot on track as hitting 40PSI and were not happy. Reduced pressures to 29PSI front 28rear and handled a lot better
I would start by aiming for the manufacturers pressures when the tyres are hot, so warm up the car then reset down to just below manufacturers recommended pressures and do a full run. You'll likely then have to bleed out more pressure. If they still feel a bit over you can reduce a bit further but obviously don't drop too low.
Given 73%
while driving a
BMW M3
(225/45 R17) on
mostly motorways
for 4,800
spirited miles
The most balanced extreme performance tyre!
Tyre feedback is the best amongst these extreme performance tyres.
Dry performance is very good with not bad wet handling.
Wear on these tyres are insane.....you expect it to last only for around 12000km or a year.....and it's not cheap
55 - tyre reviewed on May 9, 2018
Given 95%
while driving a
Honda Civic Type R
(255/35 R20) on
a combination of roads
for 1,000
spirited miles
Absolutely fantastic thus far.
It's been a little cold for these to work to their best, but they still do a fantastic job of making the handling perfectly balanced and totally enjoyable - It's very easy to read the road with these:- You do feel them warming up with use at lower temperatures, but with air temperatures of 15c+ they're most of the way to being ready to go.
Response is instant, and stability at higher speeds (Up to ~150+ MPH) is noticably greater than the PS4S.
In wet conditions, drive sensibly "at the speed of traffic" and you'll be perfectly fine, even in moderate to heavy rain - I've yet to encounter standing water, but I'd be quite cautious if puddles were starting to form given the tread. - I've not left a wet score yet as I haven't tried them on a proper B road.
I have the Ferrari K1 fitment which comes with acoustic foam; In comparison to the PS4S these replaced, I would say they are no less comfortable in most instances, and are either quieter or at least of a nicer pitch.
Time will tell how they wear; I'm hoping for at least 10K at the moment.
52 - tyre reviewed on March 15, 2021
Given 83%
while driving a
BMW M3
(265/35 R19) on
a combination of roads
for 6,000
spirited miles
After the run in check (at 2000 km), replaced the OEM Pilot Super Sport with Cup 2 (265/35 R19 and 285/30 R20).
They really stick like s**t to your shoe! But you need first to heat them up AND accordingly adjust the tire pressure! It's the most heat sensitive tire I had until now...you can start at 20°C and 2,3 bar and end up with almost 3 bar at 70°C on the highway. So, before doing another lap, get out, check the pressure and adjust at around 2.1-2.2 bar. Front-back variation, at your own discretion, depending on how do you want your car to behave.
They are so sticky that even cold they SUCK the pebbles in the parking lot and the MPG is worse than with Pilot Super Sport (from 9 to 11-12 l/100 km).
Road feed back is amazing, it's like you feel the road with your own palm faces. And the are more comfortable than the Super Sports! I guess the side wall is not that stiff. Who knows.
Now the bad part: it absolutely does hate cold and wet conditions. As in, no grip. Try to pull away from a stop at a roundabout, you only get shudders from the back and not much forward momentum. So you need to time your starts accordingly (more time and space to the next incoming car).
But with care, you can manage it. During a long trip, I also drove in snowy conditions (unexpected, it was only September) and it went ok. Just take care and no sudden movements.
33 - tyre reviewed on October 14, 2021
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Given 76%
while driving a
Volkswagen Mk7 Golf R
(235/35 R19) on
a combination of roads
for 20,000
spirited miles
Optimum dry grip is reached when the tyre reaches performance temperature. This can only be achieved driving on a track - public roads don't give enough opportunity to go fast safely around corners to generate heat. Once they're hot, they're sticky and provide loads of grip in the dry. Wet grip isn't too bad when they're hot, but they do cool off a bit quick. However, in the wet they are consistent with their grip, so once the temperature settles, you know what to expect.
Feedback is average. You really ought to know your vehicle's handling characteristics, rather than rely on this tyre to tell you how it's coping on the road surface.
Wear is consistent. They provide just as much grip towards the end of their life as at the start. Used as a daily driver with moderate to easy cornering and acceleration, you should expect about 40,000 km. If used on sporadically on the track, about 20,000 km to 30,000 km.
Comfort isn't too bad. They are a tad noisy on the coarser bitumen surfaces on the country roads in south west Australia, but still adequate.
I've compared these to the original fitted Bridgestones that were road tyres. The main difference between them is the wet handling is much better on the Bridgestones, but the Bridgestones lost a lot of grip suddenly two-thirds towards the end of their life. This made them initially, dangerously unpredictable. I actually removed them before they ran out of tread. Since them, I've had two sets of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s.
1 - tyre reviewed on May 22, 2021
BMW
(245/35 R19 R) on
mostly country roads
for 500
spirited miles
These tyres provide superior driver feedback via steering and through the seat of the pants. Superior grip in the dry and fine for a mild climate. I live in Sydney where the temperature rarely drops below 10 degrees celsius.
Wet weather handling never worries me as I never push the car in the wet only in the dry.
The Cup 2 tyres fitted to my M2 Competition were developed with BMW, a big reason for their selection on my car.
One negative is they pick everything up off the road surface, not great for side skirts on the M2 as stone chips leave their mark. It would be prudent to look at clear wrapping the car especially the flanks and side sills if you are super worried about it. Me I like the patina that is left on the car from being well driven.
0 - tyre reviewed on January 11, 2021
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Given 92%
while driving a
Mazda RX8
(225/45 R17) on
track
for 500
spirited miles
Bought these Michelin Pilot Sport Cup2 tyres after reading and watching several very positive reviews. Used these on my road legal track day toy (Mazda RX8).
On dry roads, these offer excellent control and feedback, very similar to other UHP tyres I have had. Not driven with these in the wet (and not planning to!), but I would expect them to struggle in the rain, given the tread pattern and depth.
On track, these are truly excellent. I ran a same-day direct comparison with Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersports and the Cup2s provided a small but noticeable improvement in grip and felt very sure-footed and confidence inspiring.
Highly recommended, especially for on-track.
I put Cup 2 on my Mazda MX-5 ND (2017), I already had coilovers and sway bar upgraded (also power upgrade to about 190hp and brake of course), until now I drove on Michelin Pilot Sport 4 which have great grip in the dry and wet also in compare to stock Bridgestone tires (S001 really do not recommend them!), they was just little "spongy" in terms of precise of steering (they have very soft sidewalls) but they are still great tires and I like it, but with Cup 2 it's on another lvl! Steering is very tight, precise, very stable at high speeds in compare to Pilot Sport 4 also grip, absolutely amazing on my upgraded suspension, car is fast as f*ck! :D I can push it really really hard, I mostly drive on back roads (I have them a lot around with minimum of traffic so I can push it) Absolutely fullfill my curent setup what I want from car. They need some warm up in at beginning but nothing terrible, I drove them only in dry, I rarely drive in the wet (I love that car and had it just for my pleasure) so I can't tell anything about wet driving.
Drove it on 3 different tracks during 2019, including Nurburgring and Spa, in all kinds of conditions.
Impressive grip in the dry, very good resistance to overheating and completely linear performance in the wet.
9 - tyre reviewed on February 3, 2020
Given 83%
while driving a
Nissan GT R
(225/45 R17) on
a combination of roads
for 6,000
average miles
Phenominal grip ,
The gtr is a heavy motor but the cup sport 2 makes it feel a lot lighter and agile
Poke it into a bend and its in and out no problem, wet however , standing water on motorways lends it to be a bit twitchy
Read the weather before you push it to hard in the wet and you will be fine, will encourage slower driving in the wet which is not a bad thing
6 - tyre reviewed on October 31, 2019
Given 49%
while driving a
Ford Falcon XR6 Ute
(245/40 R18) on
a combination of roads
for 12,500
average miles
Pricey and really not worth the money.
6 months and 20,000 kilometres and they are finished.
Interesting I had equal wear over all 4 tires without rotation. Not so sure footed in the wet or in cold weather. Noisey, actually very noisy tires especially when wearing low to 4mm down to 2mm tree depth.
10% increase in fuel consumption driving the same roads I have driven, same vehicle with previous tires that lasted 45,000 kilometres. No real sense of better anything really
Now changed to Bridgestone RE003
10 - tyre reviewed on August 23, 2019
Given 76%
while driving a
Audi S3
(235/35 R19 W) on
mostly town
for 10,000
average miles
I crashed my car because it aquaplaning
13 - tyre reviewed on March 20, 2019
Given 79%
while driving a
Renault Megane RS250 CUP
(235/35 R19) on
a combination of roads
for 4,500
spirited miles
In the dry probably the best tyre I have ever had, but for maximum grip it needs to be hot. Have them on Megane rs250 in 235/35/19 and 235/40/18. On wet drive normally and no problems. Be aware of aquaplaning.
27 - tyre reviewed on June 6, 2018
Given 89%
while driving a
Porsche 964
(255/40 R17) on
track
for 6,000
spirited miles
Fantastic track day tyre with very strong sidewalls. Will definitely buy again.
9 - tyre reviewed on April 19, 2018
Given 89%
while driving a
Mazda RX8
(225/45 R18) on
a combination of roads
for 15,000
spirited miles
Have the OEM Bridgestone RE040's on the front and the Sport Cups on the rear. Previously had the OEM's all round and having read reviews wanted to try them. The rears are now so good that a previously very well balanced car will understeer as the rears hang on so much better than the fronts although the fronts do only have about 4mm left. Can't wait to get the Sport Cups on the front now. Would highly recommend.
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