Test Publication:
Auto Bild
205/55 R16
53 tyres
2 categories
Test Size:
205/55 R16
Tyres Tested:
53 tyres
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Without fail, each year German publication Auto Bild provides the most comprehensive overview of the summer tyre market by testing a huge amount of tyres ability in the dry and wet, in order to work out which twenty tyres deserve to be tested in their full summer tyre test.
For 2021, Auto Bild have tested 53 tyres in the most popular tyre size in Europe, 205/55 R16.
All 53 sets of tyres have their wet and dry braking results below, with the shortest 20 combined braking distances progressing to the full test, which will be on the website shortly.
Of all 53 results, there are some interesting standouts. Firstly, Hankook managed to win BOTH dry and wet braking, which is unusual for a tyre to be best in both categories, while Pirelli and Kumho must have mid-life updated their tyres, as the Cinturato P7 C2 and Kumho Ecsta HS51 have progressed up the order. It will be interesting to see how these three tyres do in the wear testing of the full test.
Fourth to nineth place brings no surprises, but Firestone in tenth place is interesting, as the same tyre just performed really badly in the ADAC 17" test. Perhaps the 16" tyre has an update that hasn't made it to the 17" size yet. There's also new tyre in seventeenth place, the Toyo Proxes Comfort.
As usual, the gap in dry braking (from 62mph) is much smaller than the gap in wet braking (from 50mph.) Just 6 meters covered the best to worse tyres in the dry, but a HUGE 25 meters covering the best to worse in the wet. Even removing the extremely poor performance of the Maxtrek and Double Coin tyres in the wet, there's still 15 meters difference from just 50mph.
If this reminds us of nothing else, make sure you give some thought to wet braking when considering budget tyres...
Dry
- Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125
- Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
- Kumho Ecsta HS51
- Maxxis Premitra HP5
- Nokian WetProof
- Toyo Proxes Comfort
- Dunlop Sport BluResponse
- Bridgestone Turanza T005
- Firestone RoadHawk
- Nexen N Blue HD Plus
- Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
- Michelin Primacy 4
- Fulda EcoControl HP2
- Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance
- Kleber Dynaxer HP4
- Debica Presto HP 2
- Sava Intensa HP2
- Continental Premium Contact 6
- Alliance 030EX
- BFGoodrich Advantage
- Apollo Alnac 4g
- Goodride Z 107 ZuperEco
- Imperial Ecodriver 5
- Uniroyal RainSport 5
- Wanli SA302 Sport Macro
- Leao Nova Force HP
- Aplus A606
- Semperit Speed Life 3
- Nankang Eco 2 Plus
- Riken Road Performance
- Avon ZV7
- GT Radial Champiro FE1
- Cooper Zeon CS8
- Viking Protech Newgen
- Hifly HF201
- Event Futurum HP
- Sailun Atrezzo Elite
- Petlas Imperium PT515
- Achilles ATR Sport 2
- Radar RPX800
- Firemax FM601
- General Altimax One S
- Powertrac City Tour
- Zeetex ZT1000
- Seiberling Seiberling Touring 2
- Austone SP 6 Athena
- Atlas Green HP
- Maxtrek MAXIMUS M1
- Barum Bravuris 5HM
- Tomket Sport 3 Series 3
- Fortuna FSR 602
- Antares Ingens A1
- Double Coin DC99
Wet
- Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125
- Continental Premium Contact 6
- Pirelli Cinturato P7 C2
- Semperit Speed Life 3
- Michelin Primacy 4
- Kumho Ecsta HS51
- Falken ZIEX ZE310 EcoRun
- Kleber Dynaxer HP4
- Firestone RoadHawk
- Bridgestone Turanza T005
- Nokian WetProof
- Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance
- BFGoodrich Advantage
- Debica Presto HP 2
- Uniroyal RainSport 5
- Nexen N Blue HD Plus
- Maxxis Premitra HP5
- Dunlop Sport BluResponse
- Radar RPX800
- Toyo Proxes Comfort
- Apollo Alnac 4g
- Barum Bravuris 5HM
- Sava Intensa HP2
- Fulda EcoControl HP2
- Zeetex ZT1000
- Avon ZV7
- Goodride Z 107 ZuperEco
- Event Futurum HP
- Cooper Zeon CS8
- General Altimax One S
- Hifly HF201
- Petlas Imperium PT515
- Viking Protech Newgen
- Imperial Ecodriver 5
- Wanli SA302 Sport Macro
- Leao Nova Force HP
- GT Radial Champiro FE1
- Fortuna FSR 602
- Sailun Atrezzo Elite
- Austone SP 6 Athena
- Nankang Eco 2 Plus
- Firemax FM601
- Seiberling Seiberling Touring 2
- Tomket Sport 3 Series 3
- Atlas Green HP
- Antares Ingens A1
- Powertrac City Tour
- Aplus A606
- Riken Road Performance
- Alliance 030EX
- Achilles ATR Sport 2
- Maxtrek MAXIMUS M1
- Double Coin DC99
Results
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
1st |
34.1 M |
|
|
100% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
1st |
29.6 M |
|
|
100% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
2nd |
34.5 M |
34.1 M |
+0.4 M |
98.84% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
3rd |
29.7 M |
29.6 M |
+0.1 M |
99.66% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
3rd |
34.8 M |
34.1 M |
+0.7 M |
97.99% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
5th |
30.4 M |
29.6 M |
+0.8 M |
97.37% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
18th |
36.5 M |
34.1 M |
+2.4 M |
93.42% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
1st |
29.6 M |
|
|
100% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
10th |
35.8 M |
34.1 M |
+1.7 M |
95.25% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
5th |
30.4 M |
29.6 M |
+0.8 M |
97.37% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
5th |
35.1 M |
34.1 M |
+1 M |
97.15% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
11th |
31.7 M |
29.6 M |
+2.1 M |
93.38% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
7th |
35.4 M |
34.1 M |
+1.3 M |
96.33% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
8th |
31.6 M |
29.6 M |
+2 M |
93.67% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
10th |
35.8 M |
34.1 M |
+1.7 M |
95.25% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
7th |
31.4 M |
29.6 M |
+1.8 M |
94.27% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
4th |
35 M |
34.1 M |
+0.9 M |
97.43% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
17th |
32.2 M |
29.6 M |
+2.6 M |
91.93% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
9th |
35.7 M |
34.1 M |
+1.6 M |
95.52% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
8th |
31.6 M |
29.6 M |
+2 M |
93.67% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
7th |
35.4 M |
34.1 M |
+1.3 M |
96.33% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
17th |
32.2 M |
29.6 M |
+2.6 M |
91.93% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
28th |
37.7 M |
34.1 M |
+3.6 M |
90.45% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
4th |
30 M |
29.6 M |
+0.4 M |
98.67% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
14th |
36.1 M |
34.1 M |
+2 M |
94.46% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
11th |
31.7 M |
29.6 M |
+2.1 M |
93.38% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
15th |
36.2 M |
34.1 M |
+2.1 M |
94.2% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
8th |
31.6 M |
29.6 M |
+2 M |
93.67% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
10th |
35.8 M |
34.1 M |
+1.7 M |
95.25% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
16th |
32.1 M |
29.6 M |
+2.5 M |
92.21% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
16th |
36.3 M |
34.1 M |
+2.2 M |
93.94% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
13th |
31.9 M |
29.6 M |
+2.3 M |
92.79% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
6th |
35.2 M |
34.1 M |
+1.1 M |
96.88% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
20th |
33.2 M |
29.6 M |
+3.6 M |
89.16% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
20th |
36.7 M |
34.1 M |
+2.6 M |
92.92% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
13th |
31.9 M |
29.6 M |
+2.3 M |
92.79% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
24th |
37.4 M |
34.1 M |
+3.3 M |
91.18% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
15th |
32 M |
29.6 M |
+2.4 M |
92.5% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
13th |
36 M |
34.1 M |
+1.9 M |
94.72% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
24th |
33.8 M |
29.6 M |
+4.2 M |
87.57% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
21st |
36.8 M |
34.1 M |
+2.7 M |
92.66% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
20th |
33.2 M |
29.6 M |
+3.6 M |
89.16% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
17th |
36.4 M |
34.1 M |
+2.3 M |
93.68% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
23rd |
33.7 M |
29.6 M |
+4.1 M |
87.83% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
39th |
38.4 M |
34.1 M |
+4.3 M |
88.8% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
19th |
32.5 M |
29.6 M |
+2.9 M |
91.08% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
22nd |
37.1 M |
34.1 M |
+3 M |
91.91% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
26th |
34.3 M |
29.6 M |
+4.7 M |
86.3% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
31st |
37.9 M |
34.1 M |
+3.8 M |
89.97% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
26th |
34.3 M |
29.6 M |
+4.7 M |
86.3% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
32nd |
38 M |
34.1 M |
+3.9 M |
89.74% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
29th |
34.5 M |
29.6 M |
+4.9 M |
85.8% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
34th |
38.1 M |
34.1 M |
+4 M |
89.5% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
28th |
34.4 M |
29.6 M |
+4.8 M |
86.05% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
44th |
38.6 M |
34.1 M |
+4.5 M |
88.34% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
25th |
33.9 M |
29.6 M |
+4.3 M |
87.32% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
49th |
39 M |
34.1 M |
+4.9 M |
87.44% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
22nd |
33.6 M |
29.6 M |
+4 M |
88.1% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
41st |
38.5 M |
34.1 M |
+4.4 M |
88.57% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
30th |
34.6 M |
29.6 M |
+5 M |
85.55% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
34th |
38.1 M |
34.1 M |
+4 M |
89.5% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
31st |
35.3 M |
29.6 M |
+5.7 M |
83.85% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
23rd |
37.3 M |
34.1 M |
+3.2 M |
91.42% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
33rd |
36.1 M |
29.6 M |
+6.5 M |
81.99% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
24th |
37.4 M |
34.1 M |
+3.3 M |
91.18% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
35th |
36.2 M |
29.6 M |
+6.6 M |
81.77% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
24th |
37.4 M |
34.1 M |
+3.3 M |
91.18% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
36th |
36.5 M |
29.6 M |
+6.9 M |
81.1% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
38th |
38.3 M |
34.1 M |
+4.2 M |
89.03% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
32nd |
35.9 M |
29.6 M |
+6.3 M |
82.45% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
34th |
38.1 M |
34.1 M |
+4 M |
89.5% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
33rd |
36.1 M |
29.6 M |
+6.5 M |
81.99% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
32nd |
38 M |
34.1 M |
+3.9 M |
89.74% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
36th |
36.5 M |
29.6 M |
+6.9 M |
81.1% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
37th |
38.2 M |
34.1 M |
+4.1 M |
89.27% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
39th |
37.1 M |
29.6 M |
+7.5 M |
79.78% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
28th |
37.7 M |
34.1 M |
+3.6 M |
90.45% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
41st |
37.9 M |
29.6 M |
+8.3 M |
78.1% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
45th |
38.7 M |
34.1 M |
+4.6 M |
88.11% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
40th |
37.4 M |
29.6 M |
+7.8 M |
79.14% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
51st |
39.6 M |
34.1 M |
+5.5 M |
86.11% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
38th |
36.7 M |
29.6 M |
+7.1 M |
80.65% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
41st |
38.5 M |
34.1 M |
+4.4 M |
88.57% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
41st |
37.9 M |
29.6 M |
+8.3 M |
78.1% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
19th |
36.6 M |
34.1 M |
+2.5 M |
93.17% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
50th |
40.3 M |
29.6 M |
+10.7 M |
73.45% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
45th |
38.7 M |
34.1 M |
+4.6 M |
88.11% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
43rd |
38.2 M |
29.6 M |
+8.6 M |
77.49% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
24th |
37.4 M |
34.1 M |
+3.3 M |
91.18% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
47th |
39.6 M |
29.6 M |
+10 M |
74.75% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
30th |
37.8 M |
34.1 M |
+3.7 M |
90.21% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
49th |
39.7 M |
29.6 M |
+10.1 M |
74.56% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
41st |
38.5 M |
34.1 M |
+4.4 M |
88.57% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
47th |
39.6 M |
29.6 M |
+10 M |
74.75% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
47th |
38.8 M |
34.1 M |
+4.7 M |
87.89% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
45th |
39.4 M |
29.6 M |
+9.8 M |
75.13% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
49th |
39 M |
34.1 M |
+4.9 M |
87.44% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
44th |
39.2 M |
29.6 M |
+9.6 M |
75.51% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
52nd |
39.8 M |
34.1 M |
+5.7 M |
85.68% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
46th |
39.5 M |
29.6 M |
+9.9 M |
74.94% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
39th |
38.4 M |
34.1 M |
+4.3 M |
88.8% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
51st |
41 M |
29.6 M |
+11.4 M |
72.2% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
48th |
38.9 M |
34.1 M |
+4.8 M |
87.66% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
52nd |
45.9 M |
29.6 M |
+16.3 M |
64.49% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Dry Braking |
53rd |
40.5 M |
34.1 M |
+6.4 M |
84.2% |
| Test |
# |
Result |
Best |
Diff |
% |
| Wet Braking |
53rd |
51 M |
29.6 M |
+21.4 M |
58.04% |
Sorry, but I don't understand... How a tire with "B EU classification" on wet, can be better than a "A Eu classification" on wet in your wet braking test? The Eu classification does not indicate that the A tires will be better then B, C, D... Tires on wet?
Strange isn't it, happens more than you'd think. Different test conditions can easily change the order of the tyres
Where is vredestein sportrac 5? one of the best tyres?
It's a very old pattern now, Auto Bild try and test new tyres
Commented on other test also... no Yokohama tires here either... which impressed me... as I have the idea, that they usually have good tires.
Too bad Auto Bild didn't test the Michelin PS 4 (91W, 91Y or the 94Y). They had a lot of time and money to spend and settle for the Primacy 4 and a tremendous number of hopeless tyres instead.
The primacy 4 is by far the bigger seller in this size and more comparable to the other tyres so it makes sense for them for them to include it
You're right, Jonathan, but since they had a lot of tyres to choose from (53) it was a pity they didn't include what can probably be the best tyre in that very popular size and, at the same time, the one no one ever tested yet. I'd just love to know/confirm that a few years ago I fitted my car with the best! :)
It might be against their rules to include two from the same brand. Best is relative, however I'm sure the PS4 is up there if you want a sport 16", along with the PC6
Another reason is the testing tyres category. This was an annual Autobild Touring tyres test for a broad public and budget, not a test of Performance summer tyres like the PS4 is. More tests to come, no worries, till then see the customer reviews here but you are already convinced anyway :-).
Don't forget to add your review for others here, inclusive the longevity...
Very pleased with this result and be interested to see the big test, since I've just bought a set of HS51! Camskill were doing a silly deal which resulted in me getting 4 205/55r16 for £147 delivered...
I noticed the sale and other images (of same size) all showed C C 69db but the tyres I got show C B 69db which goes along with an update.
Funny how results vary between facilities though, your test had the Hankook struggling a bit where they've won here!
I suspect the Hankook would have had a mid life update as there''s no way it could vary this much just with test conditions!
The full AB test will be out in a few weeks.
Hmmm did wonder that but thought if there's a replacement imminent that they wouldn't have bothered!
Mind you, as I've said before, Hankook are jekyll & hyde, if you read user reviews and tests they either do really well or get badged as 'teflon'. I do wonder if there are 2 factories with a big difference in QC betwixt... ?
I'm still on the side of midlife update. There are sometimes dependencies in factory outputs, but they should be very small :)
Should be indeed! It just odd how Hankook get 'sticky' or 'teflon' rated wi nowt much inbetween...
Its a shame (for me anyway) you didn't test the HS51 with the others, but obviously clear reasons why.
Out of interest, what are the clear reasons?
Well, you cant test everything, it isn't necessarily a stand-out tyre, Kumho are still percieved more toward the budget end of midrange which was represented by maxxis, and its quite an old design now relatively speaking. Those are my thoughts as to why it wasnt on your shortlist, though it simply might not have sprung to mind.
They've always been a solid tyre, and particularly suited to certain cars or driving, but never anything remarkable (outside mx5 community) just 'good' (from what ive seen with reviews, posts, tests, etc as I over research every tyre that makes any shortlist for any vehicle ? )
A pretty good assumption, I'm impressed :)
I've tried to get Kumho for this years tests but they... weren't interested
Shame!
But in regards tyres, you (should) know me by now! ??
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