2020 Tyre Market Overview Braking Test

Name: 2020 Tyre Market Overview Braking Test
Creator: Tyre Reviews
Published: 2020-02-17

Data analyzed and reviewed by Jonathan Benson

February 17, 2020 19 min read Updated January 8, 2025

Contents

Introduction
Dry Braking
Wet Braking
Results
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Nokian PowerProof
Bridgestone Potenza S001
Continental Premium Contact 6
Kumho Ecsta PS71
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
Nexen N Fera Sport SU2
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
Apollo Aspire XP
Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3
Firestone RoadHawk
Fulda SportControl 2
Kleber Dynaxer UHP
Laufenn S Fit EQ+
Falken Azenis FK510
Toyo Proxes Sport
Dunlop SportMaxx RT 2
Zeetex HP2000 vfm
Uniroyal RainSport 3
Maxxis Victra Sport 5
Infinity Ecomax
Giti GitiSport S1
Semperit SpeedLife 2
Debica Presto UHP2
Pirelli P Zero
Yokohama Advan Sport V105
Mabor Sport Jet 3
Sava Intensa UHP 2
Cooper Zeon Sport
Avon ZZS
Gislaved Ultra Speed
Matador MP 47 Hectorra 3
General Altimax One S
Radar Dimax R8
Viking ProTech HP
Tracmax X Privilo TX3
Minerva Radial F 205
Rotalla RU01 S Pace
Tristar Sportpower 2
Dayton Touring 2
Barum Bravuris 5HM
Marshal MU12
Seiberling Seiberling Touring 2
Federal Evoluzion ST 1
Nankang NS2
GT Radial SportActive
Imperial Ecosport 2
Accelera PHI R
King Meiler Sport 3 KM

Test Publication:

Auto Bild

245/45 R18 49 tyres 2 categories

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Test Publication:

Auto Bild

Read the original test at Auto Bild →

Test Size: 245/45 R18

Tyres Tested: 49 tyres

Test Categories:
2 categories (2 tests)

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Auto Bild is not affiliated with, and does not endorse, Tyre Reviews. This is independent editorial coverage of their published test.

Every year the German publication Auto Bild performs the industries most comprehensive tyre test by putting a huge number of tyres through wet and dry braking, to find the best twenty tyres to progress through to a full tyre test.

For the 2020 summer season, Auto Bild have tested fifty tyres in 245/45 R18, which gives us an excellent overview of the UHP market for 2020.

While the results are mostly as expected, there are a few small surprises below worth noting. Nokian performs very well in wet and dry braking, finishing second overall, but more surprisingly the Bridgestone Potenza S001 wins the wet braking test, which is an area the Bridgestone has struggled with in the past. This indicates Bridgestone have put through a pretty major update to the tyre, it will be interesting to see how it performs in the full test.

It's also nice to see Kumho back near the top after struggling for a number of years, and the budget brand Zeetex upsets some of the more premium rivals, including Pirelli, to finish in eighteenth place.

Full results below, come back to the site in about a month when there will be the more in depth test of the top twenty tyres available.

Dry Braking

Michelin Pilot Sport 4
32.10 M
Nokian PowerProof
32.90 M
Continental Premium Contact 6
33.20 M
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
33.20 M
Nexen N Fera Sport SU2
33.20 M
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
33.40 M
Bridgestone Potenza S001
33.50 M
Laufenn S Fit EQ Plus
34.00 M
Kleber Dynaxer UHP
34.10 M
Fulda SportControl 2
34.20 M
Dunlop SportMaxx RT 2
34.30 M
Firestone RoadHawk
34.30 M
Apollo Aspire XP
34.70 M
Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3
34.70 M
Sava Intensa UHP 2
34.70 M
Maxxis Victra Sport 5
34.80 M
Pirelli P Zero
34.80 M
Kumho Ecsta PS71
34.90 M
Federal Evoluzion ST 1
35.30 M
Yokohama Advan Sport V105
35.30 M
Toyo Proxes Sport
35.40 M
General Altimax One S
35.40 M
Giti GitiSport S1
35.50 M
Infinity Ecomax
35.70 M
Uniroyal RainSport 3
35.70 M
Mabor Sport Jet 3
35.90 M
Matador MP 47 Hectorra 3
36.00 M
Falken Azenis FK510
36.00 M
Zeetex HP2000 vfm
36.00 M
Cooper Zeon Sport
36.00 M
Debica Presto UHP2
36.10 M
Avon ZZS
36.20 M
Semperit SpeedLife 2
36.20 M
Dayton Touring 2
36.40 M
Tristar Sportpower 2
36.50 M
Nankang NS2
36.50 M
Marshal MU12
36.60 M
Radar Dimax R8
36.70 M
GT Radial SportActive
36.80 M
Minerva Radial F 205
36.90 M
Tracmax X Privilo TX3
37.00 M
Seiberling Seiberling Touring 2
37.00 M
Rotalla RU01 S Pace
37.20 M
Imperial Ecosport 2
37.30 M
Viking ProTech HP
37.30 M
Accelera PHI R
37.40 M
Gislaved Ultra Speed
37.50 M
Barum Bravuris 5HM
37.70 M
King Meiler Sport 3 KM
41.00 M

Wet Braking

Bridgestone Potenza S001
28.70 M
Kumho Ecsta PS71
29.00 M
Nokian PowerProof
29.10 M
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
29.80 M
Continental Premium Contact 6
30.20 M
Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3
30.30 M
Apollo Aspire XP
30.30 M
Falken Azenis FK510
30.70 M
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 5
30.80 M
Firestone RoadHawk
30.80 M
Nexen N Fera Sport SU2
30.90 M
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti
31.30 M
Toyo Proxes Sport
31.50 M
Fulda SportControl 2
31.70 M
Zeetex HP2000 vfm
31.80 M
Kleber Dynaxer UHP
32.20 M
Semperit SpeedLife 2
32.20 M
Uniroyal RainSport 3
32.40 M
Laufenn S Fit EQ Plus
32.60 M
Infinity Ecomax
32.60 M
Debica Presto UHP2
32.80 M
Giti GitiSport S1
32.90 M
Dunlop SportMaxx RT 2
33.00 M
Maxxis Victra Sport 5
33.40 M
Gislaved Ultra Speed
33.90 M
Mabor Sport Jet 3
34.30 M
Cooper Zeon Sport
34.50 M
Pirelli P Zero
34.60 M
Yokohama Advan Sport V105
34.70 M
Viking ProTech HP
34.80 M
Avon ZZS
35.20 M
General Altimax One S
35.40 M
Tracmax X Privilo TX3
35.40 M
Sava Intensa UHP 2
35.50 M
Rotalla RU01 S Pace
35.70 M
Matador MP 47 Hectorra 3
35.70 M
Minerva Radial F 205
36.00 M
Barum Bravuris 5HM
36.10 M
Radar Dimax R8
36.70 M
Tristar Sportpower 2
37.00 M
Seiberling Seiberling Touring 2
37.00 M
Dayton Touring 2
37.20 M
Marshal MU12
37.40 M
Nankang NS2
38.20 M
Imperial Ecosport 2
38.70 M
GT Radial SportActive
39.10 M
Federal Evoluzion ST 1
39.40 M
Accelera PHI R
40.50 M
King Meiler Sport 3 KM
43.20 M

Results

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	1^st	32.1 M			100%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	4^th	29.8 M	28.7 M	+1.1 M	96.31%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	2^nd	32.9 M	32.1 M	+0.8 M	97.57%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	3^rd	29.1 M	28.7 M	+0.4 M	98.63%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	7^th	33.5 M	32.1 M	+1.4 M	95.82%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	1^st	28.7 M			100%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	3^rd	33.2 M	32.1 M	+1.1 M	96.69%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	5^th	30.2 M	28.7 M	+1.5 M	95.03%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	18^th	34.9 M	32.1 M	+2.8 M	91.98%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	2^nd	29 M	28.7 M	+0.3 M	98.97%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	3^rd	33.2 M	32.1 M	+1.1 M	96.69%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	9^th	30.8 M	28.7 M	+2.1 M	93.18%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	3^rd	33.2 M	32.1 M	+1.1 M	96.69%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	11^th	30.9 M	28.7 M	+2.2 M	92.88%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	6^th	33.4 M	32.1 M	+1.3 M	96.11%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	12^th	31.3 M	28.7 M	+2.6 M	91.69%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	13^th	34.7 M	32.1 M	+2.6 M	92.51%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	6^th	30.3 M	28.7 M	+1.6 M	94.72%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	13^th	34.7 M	32.1 M	+2.6 M	92.51%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	6^th	30.3 M	28.7 M	+1.6 M	94.72%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	11^th	34.3 M	32.1 M	+2.2 M	93.59%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	9^th	30.8 M	28.7 M	+2.1 M	93.18%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	10^th	34.2 M	32.1 M	+2.1 M	93.86%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	14^th	31.7 M	28.7 M	+3 M	90.54%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	9^th	34.1 M	32.1 M	+2 M	94.13%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	16^th	32.2 M	28.7 M	+3.5 M	89.13%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	8^th	34 M	32.1 M	+1.9 M	94.41%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	19^th	32.6 M	28.7 M	+3.9 M	88.04%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	27^th	36 M	32.1 M	+3.9 M	89.17%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	8^th	30.7 M	28.7 M	+2 M	93.49%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	21^st	35.4 M	32.1 M	+3.3 M	90.68%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	13^th	31.5 M	28.7 M	+2.8 M	91.11%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	11^th	34.3 M	32.1 M	+2.2 M	93.59%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	23^rd	33 M	28.7 M	+4.3 M	86.97%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	27^th	36 M	32.1 M	+3.9 M	89.17%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	15^th	31.8 M	28.7 M	+3.1 M	90.25%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	24^th	35.7 M	32.1 M	+3.6 M	89.92%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	18^th	32.4 M	28.7 M	+3.7 M	88.58%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	16^th	34.8 M	32.1 M	+2.7 M	92.24%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	24^th	33.4 M	28.7 M	+4.7 M	85.93%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	24^th	35.7 M	32.1 M	+3.6 M	89.92%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	19^th	32.6 M	28.7 M	+3.9 M	88.04%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	23^rd	35.5 M	32.1 M	+3.4 M	90.42%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	22^nd	32.9 M	28.7 M	+4.2 M	87.23%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	32^nd	36.2 M	32.1 M	+4.1 M	88.67%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	16^th	32.2 M	28.7 M	+3.5 M	89.13%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	31^st	36.1 M	32.1 M	+4 M	88.92%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	21^st	32.8 M	28.7 M	+4.1 M	87.5%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	16^th	34.8 M	32.1 M	+2.7 M	92.24%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	28^th	34.6 M	28.7 M	+5.9 M	82.95%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	19^th	35.3 M	32.1 M	+3.2 M	90.93%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	29^th	34.7 M	28.7 M	+6 M	82.71%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	26^th	35.9 M	32.1 M	+3.8 M	89.42%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	26^th	34.3 M	28.7 M	+5.6 M	83.67%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	13^th	34.7 M	32.1 M	+2.6 M	92.51%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	34^th	35.5 M	28.7 M	+6.8 M	80.85%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	27^th	36 M	32.1 M	+3.9 M	89.17%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	27^th	34.5 M	28.7 M	+5.8 M	83.19%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	32^nd	36.2 M	32.1 M	+4.1 M	88.67%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	31^st	35.2 M	28.7 M	+6.5 M	81.53%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	47^th	37.5 M	32.1 M	+5.4 M	85.6%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	25^th	33.9 M	28.7 M	+5.2 M	84.66%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	27^th	36 M	32.1 M	+3.9 M	89.17%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	35^th	35.7 M	28.7 M	+7 M	80.39%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	21^st	35.4 M	32.1 M	+3.3 M	90.68%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	32^nd	35.4 M	28.7 M	+6.7 M	81.07%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	38^th	36.7 M	32.1 M	+4.6 M	87.47%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	39^th	36.7 M	28.7 M	+8 M	78.2%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	44^th	37.3 M	32.1 M	+5.2 M	86.06%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	30^th	34.8 M	28.7 M	+6.1 M	82.47%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	41^st	37 M	32.1 M	+4.9 M	86.76%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	32^nd	35.4 M	28.7 M	+6.7 M	81.07%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	40^th	36.9 M	32.1 M	+4.8 M	86.99%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	37^th	36 M	28.7 M	+7.3 M	79.72%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	43^rd	37.2 M	32.1 M	+5.1 M	86.29%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	35^th	35.7 M	28.7 M	+7 M	80.39%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	35^th	36.5 M	32.1 M	+4.4 M	87.95%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	40^th	37 M	28.7 M	+8.3 M	77.57%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	34^th	36.4 M	32.1 M	+4.3 M	88.19%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	42^nd	37.2 M	28.7 M	+8.5 M	77.15%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	48^th	37.7 M	32.1 M	+5.6 M	85.15%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	38^th	36.1 M	28.7 M	+7.4 M	79.5%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	37^th	36.6 M	32.1 M	+4.5 M	87.7%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	43^rd	37.4 M	28.7 M	+8.7 M	76.74%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	41^st	37 M	32.1 M	+4.9 M	86.76%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	40^th	37 M	28.7 M	+8.3 M	77.57%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	19^th	35.3 M	32.1 M	+3.2 M	90.93%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	47^th	39.4 M	28.7 M	+10.7 M	72.84%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	35^th	36.5 M	32.1 M	+4.4 M	87.95%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	44^th	38.2 M	28.7 M	+9.5 M	75.13%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	39^th	36.8 M	32.1 M	+4.7 M	87.23%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	46^th	39.1 M	28.7 M	+10.4 M	73.4%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	44^th	37.3 M	32.1 M	+5.2 M	86.06%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	45^th	38.7 M	28.7 M	+10 M	74.16%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	46^th	37.4 M	32.1 M	+5.3 M	85.83%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	48^th	40.5 M	28.7 M	+11.8 M	70.86%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Dry Braking	49^th	41 M	32.1 M	+8.9 M	78.29%

Test	#	Result	Best	Diff	%
Wet Braking	49^th	43.2 M	28.7 M	+14.5 M	66.44%

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Discussion

38 comments

Mohammed Hamed Ahmed Soliman Sep 21, 2021 archived

Braking distance at what car speed?

#7178
TyreReviews Jan 4, 2021 archived

Firstly, not my test so I can't answer. Autobild do an all season test every year with a summer and winter tyre as reference, which should answer your point.
Also, my own all season test https://www.tyrereviews.com... has summer and winter references

#6405
Chris Nov 20, 2020 archived

So Auto Bild want us to believe that Michelin PS4 are the only tyres that brake better in WET conditions (29.8 m) than dry (32.1 m)? Am I missing something, or is this against the laws of physics? Or did someone make a typo when entering the data?
All the other tyres in this list behave normally, that is, brake better in dry conditions.

#6331
1. TyreReviews Chris Nov 20, 2020 archived
  
  Initial speed will be different, likely 100 for dry and 80 for wet
  
  #6332
Simon Green Mar 29, 2020 archived

Hi, really confused about the mixed reviews of the PS 4s. Seems to be getting great reviews at the technical level but mixed by the community. Are there quality issues compared to the competitors? Looking for tyres for my S63 Coupe and just so confused as to what would be ‘best’. I just want something that is safe, quiet and reasonably durable. That’s not too much to ask is it? :)

#5672
1. TyreReviews Simon Green Mar 29, 2020 archived
  
  Michelin probably make the most consistent tyres in the market, so I doubt it's due to quality issues!
  The only negatives I really see against the PS4 is that they can be a little noisy in some fitments, and they don't wear as well as previous Michelins.
  I'm not sure what sizes you have, but the Asymmetric 5 would be an alternative.
  
  #5673
  1. Simon Green TyreReviews Mar 29, 2020 archived
    
    Thanks for the reply! I’m currently running 255 45 19 and 285 40 19 which aren’t available in PS 4s from what I can tell. I think I can get the PS2 or SS in that size but they seem like old technology. I’m thinking of moving to 20” rims as tyres seem to be more available and cheaper in that size. So it would be 255 40 20 and 285 35 20 if I went with the Mercedes size recommendations. Cheers.
    
    #5675
Scour Feb 27, 2020 archived

Is there a reason why my last comment was marked as spam?

#5587
Damian Feb 26, 2020 archived

How come the Bridgestone S001 has done so much better in the wet in this test than previous tests?

#5580
1. TyreReviews Damian Feb 26, 2020 archived
  
  I feel like I covered that in the article :)
  
  #5581
  1. Damian TyreReviews Feb 26, 2020 archived
    
    Are there different iterations of the same tyre? If so is there any way to find out what you've got? Asking as we bought a used car with S001's and was thinking of changing them but this has confused me.
    
    #5582
    1. TyreReviews Damian Feb 26, 2020 archived
      
      No way of telling unless Bridgestone will tell you. They will need a combination of the DOT code andthe factory it was produced, but I wouldn't be hopeful getting that data from them
      
      #5585
      1. Damian TyreReviews Feb 26, 2020 archived
        
        Numbers on mine (if this ever blows up): DOT 7GN1 P7C. 4218. 69873
        
        #5586
MDGTI Feb 24, 2020 archived

Another strange thing for me is how far the falken 510 has slipped down the list this year it was really good the last few years.
Strange how they are testing the toyo t1 sport instead of the newer TR1 and the rainsport 3 instead of the rainsport 5.

#5575
1. Kolemjdouci MDGTI Feb 24, 2020 archived
  
  The test must have been done last summer or autumn...
  
  #5577
Lulu Bulu Feb 23, 2020 archived

Am I the only one that is disappointed by Michelin Pilot Sport 4? 225/45R17 (94Y) XL.
I find them less grippy than the Kenda Vezda AST. They're spinning very easy and abs kicks in constantly.

#5567
1. TyreReviews Lulu Bulu Feb 24, 2020 archived
  
  Might it be down to the time of year? They're consistently well rated!
  
  #5569
  1. Lulu Bulu TyreReviews Feb 24, 2020 archived
    
    That is what worries me. If it wasn't consistent and if there were bad reviews I could understand that it was a bad choice. I chose what is considered the best without budget restrictions.
    I'm now playing with tyre pressure as they were overinflated by installer.
    I'm gonna wait a little more for weather to get hotter but I'm not hoping much.
    Could be the months stored be an issue? Greece hot summer etc. Installer is official Michelin trader-installer.
    
    #5572
2. Kolemjdouci Lulu Bulu Feb 24, 2020 archived
  
  Depending on how they were stored, hopefully not on direct Greek sun. They should not be too much old either (DOT max. 4 years).
  You can try to change front & rear set, sometimes it can help, together with different air pressure. If one only tire is problematic, use it just as for the reserve wheel.
  P.S. You can also just start slower when no launch control available :-)
  
  #5573
  1. Lulu Bulu Kolemjdouci Feb 24, 2020 archived
    
    If one is problematic then I will change a pair under warranty. Spare wheel is 16", so not fitting!
    I believe they were protected by sun and extreme temperatures, I bought from main supplier of North Greece and they have a big warehouse. Dot1619
    I'll also try front-rear interchange after some testing with pressures.
    They feel solid in feedback and response comparing to my previous tyres. If we were talking about turning I would say that the safety feeling makes me getting in with higher speed. But it is difficult to start without spinning.
    
    #5576
    1. TyreReviews Lulu Bulu Feb 25, 2020 archived
      
      Fingers crossed you get to the bottom of your issue
      
      #5579
DL Feb 18, 2020 archived

Wet braking distance shorter than dry braking distance? What were the relative starting speeds and what vehicle was used?

#5561
1. Kolemjdouci DL Feb 19, 2020 archived
  
  Like they always test: Braking in dry from 100 km/h and from 80 km/h in wet.
  
  #5562
FritzHatezYouAll Feb 17, 2020 archived

Stupid test. The Debica and Sava tire are exactly the same.......still different in scores ?!?!?!?!

#5553
1. Lulu Bulu FritzHatezYouAll Feb 17, 2020 archived
  
  They seem to have different tread pattern.
  
  #5554
  1. FritzHatezYouAll Lulu Bulu Feb 18, 2020 archived
    
    Thats only on the surface.....less then 1mm deep. The rest including the material is all the same.
    This test is useless. There are more weird tires used like the old Bridgestone S001.
    And what about the whole specs off the used tires....96 or 100 loadindex???
    
    #5558
    1. Lulu Bulu FritzHatezYouAll Feb 18, 2020 archived
      
      I can see what you're saying but these small differences could make a difference. The gum could also be "almost" the same.
      Can't say for sure.
      Yeah, for Pirelli also the old P zero.
      
      #5559
Pedro Neves Feb 17, 2020 archived

There´s going to be some serious arguing and yelling at Pirelli's and Yokohama's, since they went off the top 20 and the full test...

#5551
1. TyreReviews Pedro Neves Feb 17, 2020 archived
  
  At least it was the previous gen P Zero, not the new PZ4!
  
  #5552
  1. Lulu Bulu TyreReviews Feb 18, 2020 archived
    
    Why are they still testing it then?
    
    #5555
    1. Kolemjdouci Lulu Bulu Feb 18, 2020 archived
      
      They bought it under known title "P Zero" in the shop anonymously like all others.
      They simulated purchase of a normal consumer (not a professional client).
      
      #5556
      1. Lulu Bulu Kolemjdouci Feb 18, 2020 archived
        
        What do you mean? Couldn't they ask for the new pz4? It's a different tyre. I'm not a pirelli fan but I think it's not fair. It's like asking for the Conti premium contact and getting the 5 no questions asked.
        
        #5557
        
        MDGTI Lulu Bulu Feb 24, 2020 archived
        
        I don't get it either. When looking for tyres I have no idea if it's an updated version or not. That's the problem with the p zero there is nothing to indicate if it's the pz4 or not. In any case a tyre shouldn't get worse but some how they do vary a lot. Not sure if tyre size makes a big difference or not.
        
        #5574
    2. TyreReviews Lulu Bulu Feb 18, 2020 archived
      
      It's perhaps more likely that in this size, at the time of test (last summer!) the PZ4 might not have been available, so they chose to test the older pattern instead rather than exclude it
      
      #5560
      1. Scour TyreReviews Feb 20, 2020 archived
        
        They wrote the PZ4 was tested in this dimension a year ago and it was much better
        https://www.tyrereviews.co....
        But it´s still strange. I bought the old P Zero in 2015, in that year it dominated in wet braking in two magazines, different size. In one test it the 2nd tyre needed over 3m more, in other test around 2m more.
        Can´t believe other tyres now are so much better now, so it means the P Zero is more worse now?
        Here is the test in another size in 2019
        https://www.tyrereviews.co....
        Very good in important points
        
        #5563
        
        TyreReviews Scour Feb 22, 2020 archived
        
        Sometimes tyre manufacturers have variable quality between factories, but I doubt this is the case with Pirelli. Unless in this size they've made a compound update to improve wear, at the expense of wet grip, I'm a bit stumped!
        
        #5564
        
        Mohamed Shalaby TyreReviews Feb 22, 2020 archived
        
        Pirelli have variable quality between factories.
        
        #5565
        
        Scour TyreReviews Feb 23, 2020 archived
        
        I remember some years ago the ADAC-magazine test the P1 Verde, made in Romania and Turkey. The romanian Tyres were much better than the turkish.
        But Pirelli said some weeks later it was because the romanian plant had already the new producition process, the turkish plant get it later.
        But still, the tyres don´t get so much better in a few years, so the P Zero must be getting worse
        
        #5566

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